How much beta is too much? Are you getting soft? Are we getting soft? You know, Fred Beckey went back there and put up that route when there wasn’t even a road—they walked 17 miles. Not to mention the lack of a trail to the base, knowledge of a descent route, or anything about a possible line to the top. You think he had beta? Hell no, he didn’t. Is it too much beta if you read his guidebook? Is it too much beta if you follow chalk? How about those little dog tags they have at some crags, denoting which route is which, or the small painted signs in Europe? How about bolts? They’re pretty much a dead giveaway where the route goes, after all. What about a signed approach trail, or non-confusing driving directions to the crag from the closest major city? Too much beta? Look, I’m happy to help; I just need to know what you like.